Canon is gearing up to finally release a high megapixel camera with 100+ megapixels [CR3]

Del Paso said:

Many reasons in my case, at least.
First, I don't use my camera(s) exclusively for landscape, but also for macros, cities, people, animals etc...
Second, I'd miss many lenses that I find useful, like UWA, TS and long tele-zooms.
Third, weight, bulk, weather resistance and cost.

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Were I to get the 100S, I wouldn’t get rid of my Canon gear, nor would I buy a panoply of new lenses. I would keep what I have, and get just lenses I would use for landscapes and the like. I’d probably start with the 23mm (~18mm) f/4 to start with, maybe soon adding the 32–64mm unless they come out with something more interesting to me in the meantime. Then I would choose the gear that best fit what I wanted to do. For traveling, I’d still use the G5X II, and the reality is that it is the camera I use most for landscapes as it is. It is the camera I have with me when I go to scenic places. If I found myself using my DSLR for more landscapes, then I’d revisit the question of buying the 100S. Of course late some night if I discovered that both the 100S and the 23mm were in stock, they could make a great impulse purchase. But my point is that I don’t see the 100S causing my abandoning anything I can do now, just supplementing it.

RobbieHat said:

Beyond limited lens selection for the GFX is lack of proper weather sealing. Was on a photo tour in Alaska last winter and one of the photographers with the GFX barely made it our of the gate. The body died in temps just below zero F. The R5 performed admirably down to -32. At least for me as a landscape photographer, I want a camera that is going to tolerate a pretty broad set of environmental conditions. Those conditions are where the magic happen!

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I like how Canon under promises and over delivers (except for overheating issues initially!)

Fuji GFX has a wider range at


Both are clearly out of advertised specifications at -32C!

Probably the best “use case”
For 100+MP is “more different from a phone camera than before”.

AlanF said:

Nature photographers love rugged high resolution cameras to get extra reach while out in the wild.

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Hi Alan. I am a nature photographer. Rugged is good - although most cameras now are rugged enough for me. R5 mpx is enough for my reach requirements. I prefer burst, fps way more than high mpx when it comes to capturing the moment in wildlife photography.

sanj said:

Hi Alan. I am a nature photographer. Rugged is good - although most cameras now are rugged enough for me. R5 mpx is enough for my reach requirements. I prefer burst, fps way more than high mpx when it comes to capturing the moment in wildlife photography.

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I know you are one Sanj. You returned your R3. 45 Mpx is good enough for me too, and better than fewer Mpx.

stevelee said:

Were I to get the 100S, I wouldn’t get rid of my Canon gear, nor would I buy a panoply of new lenses. I would keep what I have, and get just lenses I would use for landscapes and the like. I’d probably start with the 23mm (~18mm) f/4 to start with, maybe soon adding the 32–64mm unless they come out with something more interesting to me in the meantime. Then I would choose the gear that best fit what I wanted to do. For traveling, I’d still use the G5X II, and the reality is that it is the camera I use most for landscapes as it is. It is the camera I have with me when I go to scenic places. If I found myself using my DSLR for more landscapes, then I’d revisit the question of buying the 100S. Of course late some night if I discovered that both the 100S and the 23mm were in stock, they could make a great impulse purchase. But my point is that I don’t see the 100S causing my abandoning anything I can do now, just supplementing it.

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I understand your point, having shared the same ideas of a "mixed" camera bag.
Yet, hiking in the mountains means having to make a decision: what shall I leave home?
Is it the EOS? Certainly no, since I need the 100-400, the 24 TSE ,the 14mm and a lightweight macro plus ringflash.
Is it the Leica? While the EOS & 100-400 are mounted on a backpack strap via Peak-Design clip, the Leica M is hanging from my neck. The Fuji is far to heavy for that. Also, I'd miss my luminous and lightweight Leica M lenses.
Finally, it all comes down to a simple question: 15 or 18 kg.
Even though, the Fuji -despite what I've read about its poor resistance to elements- is still tempting, I decided against it and pro high MP Canon.

john1970 said:

I do see a 100 MP sensor being used for landscape. If one is serious about high-res landscapes is there a reason why they would just not go to MF especially when the price difference is minimal as an overall system (camera + couple of lenses)?

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I like higher resolution,s but MF is not realy interesting for me. Main reason is the MUCH better speed, AF and video feauters in current Fullframe models.
The Fuji GFX 100S certainly produces outstanding images. But the AF is so slow, the overall operating speed is super annoying... Its great if you do landscape, travel, studio work. But for everything else (wedding, people, sports, video work...) I feel the R5 or a Sony a7R IV is the much better suited tool. They offer also a quite high mega pixel count AND much better overall performance.

Also the lense selection for MF (especialy Fuji) is super limited. I have a MUCH more versatile collection with my canon lenses, then there are even Fuji lenses for MF on the market...

The other brands (Hasselblad, Leica, Phase One) are too expensive for me. It feels like the price is not right anymore in that area :-D Also they are very very slow and I read often that they are not that reliable. Its certainly a kind of photography thats beautiful, but overall not my market.

A high mega pixel canon FF camera would be certainly interesting for me. If they can put the R5 video features into a similar body (without overheat) it would be a perfect camera for me

amorse said:

I've thought a lot about exploring the 100s, but I've kind of come to the conclusion that it isn't a perfect fit. Beyond the Fuji system, I haven't researched other brands extensively but I suspect the same limitations would keep me out of them as well, and of course price for them as well.

My biggest issue is lens selection - they don't really have anything that wide (though it is coming) which is a pretty common use case for me. Ideally for me, being wide isn't enough - I'd like it fast as well and the 15-35 f/2.8 is a pretty good fit. I'd be even more excited if Canon released something wider and faster, which I think Canon is more likely to do than Fuji. On the other side of the spectrum of lenses, I've found myself using my 70-200 for landscapes a lot, and I'm craving some more reach. I've been a hair away from buying a 100-400 for my 5Div over and over, but have convinced myself to save my pennies until I have an RF camera and can go for the 100-500. I don't see Fuji producing anything equivalent, so the system, for my use case, will never completely fit. It is an extremely attractive system, and I've considered it a few times, but my decision always gets held up on lens selection when I look through my current images and think "I couldn't have taken this on the 100s, or that, or that." So at the end of the day, the better fit is a full frame system with very high pixel density, at least in my opinion.

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I agree on the lense selection. Plus faster AF, general operation speed and videofeatures on Fullframe cameras like the R5.
Also, you can find excellent wide and fast lenses for Canon if you go 3rd party. Sigma 14mm F1,8 Art for example
Also, the Canon 11-24mm is extremely sharp and offers a unique look which I found quite stunning in a lot of situations. Its something I cant produce in MF. So Fullframe is the way to go for me.

Del Paso said:

I understand your point, having shared the same ideas of a "mixed" camera bag.
Yet, hiking in the mountains mean having to make a decision: what shall I leave home?
Is it the EOS? Certainly no, since I need the 100-400, the 24 TSE ,the 14mm and a lightweight macro plus ringflash.
Is it the Leica? While the EOS & 100-400 are mounted on a backpack strap via Peak-Design clip, the Leica M is hanging from my neck. The Fuji is far to heavy for that. Also, I'd miss my luminous and lightweight Leica M lenses.
Finally, it all comes down to a simple question: 15 or 18 kg.
Even though the Fuji -despite what I've read about its poor resistance to elements- is still tempting, I decided against it and pro high MP Canon.

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The reviews I have seen give good marks to the 100S for weather sealing. It is less of an issue for me, because when the weather is too bad for the camera, it is certainly too bad for me to want to go out taking photos. I rarely do any hiking other than in the 7.8 acres of woods behind my house, and then it is to shoot fall color. I have good views from my deck, and see a good bit of wildlife from there. The birds don't seem bothered by my presence (unless they are on the deck themselves, and fly away when I go out), but the deer duck behind trees if you point something at them. If I'm going out taking pictures, I mostly have a clear idea of what I am wanting to shoot and just take my best lens for that. I might hedge my bet by taking something else along, and rarely wind up using it. So you and I have very different habits and interests, but are both attracted to the same camera, but (so far) choosing not to buy it for mostly different reasons.

I have much less gear than you, and all of what I still use come from Canon. My Rebels and EF-S lenses get no use any more. I find the 16–35mm f/4, the 24–105mm, and the 100–400mm lenses cover about anything I want to shoot. The three primes are the 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, and 100mm macro, and they fill in for their special purposes. If I shot a lot of landscapes in the 16 to 18mm range, I would have already ordered the 100S, but I don't. So that is adequately instructive. Likewise if I felt the need for a lot of megapixels, I'd go for the 100S rather than spending a like amount of money for FF. My color printer will handle paper up to 13" wide, so the pictures on my wall are on 13" x 19" paper or are on roll paper of that width. I realize that with 102MP I could crop out some nice wide murals to print,, but that is about the only real use case that comes to mind. But at real estate prices right now, I'm not about to buy a bigger house to have enough wall space to hang them. And the 13" x 19" prints from my G5X II travel pictures look great. I doubt five times the pixels would have improved them enough to justify lugging around anything heavier.

peters said:

I like higher resolution,s but MF is not realy interesting for me. Main reason is the MUCH better speed, AF and video feauters in current Fullframe models.
The Fuji GFX 100S certainly produces outstanding images. But the AF is so slow, the overall operating speed is super annoying... Its great if you do landscape, travel, studio work. But for everything else (wedding, people, sports, video work...) I feel the R5 or a Sony a7R IV is the much better suited tool. They offer also a quite high mega pixel count AND much better overall performance.

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I wouldn't be using the 100S in ways where speed and autofocus would be of importance. I'd shoot slow and deliberate landscapes. So for "everything else" I'd still have my Canon gear.

Del Paso said:

I understand your point, having shared the same ideas of a "mixed" camera bag.
Yet, hiking in the mountains mean having to make a decision: what shall I leave home?
Is it the EOS? Certainly no, since I need the 100-400, the 24 TSE ,the 14mm and a lightweight macro plus ringflash.
Is it the Leica? While the EOS & 100-400 are mounted on a backpack strap via Peak-Design clip, the Leica M is hanging from my neck. The Fuji is far to heavy for that. Also, I'd miss my luminous and lightweight Leica M lenses.
Finally, it all comes down to a simple question: 15 or 18 kg.
Even though the Fuji -despite what I've read about its poor resistance to elements- is still tempting, I decided against it and pro high MP Canon.

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... meanwhile the Leica M (and my old Leicaflex) is hanging from the neck of my son.

120MP is not eough... I need more!

Berowne said:

... meanwhile the Leica M (and my old Leicaflex) is hanging from the neck of my son.

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Still have my Leicaflex SL (best film camera ever, with Nikon's F2) and my SL2.
But my son...won't be caught with a camera around his neck.
Someday I'll have to disinherit him!

Del Paso said:

Still have my Leicaflex SL (best film camera ever, with Nikon's F2) and my SL2.
But my son...won't be caught with a camera around his neck.
Someday I'll have to disinherit him!

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Here is it!

Berowne said:

Here is it!
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Much better condition than mine!
The Elmarit is a great lens on an EOS!
I still have the Summicron 90, APO 3,4/180, 2,8/28 (not good at all on digital), the APO macro 100, macro Elmarit 60, Telyt 560
and... a dozen cute little M lenses which I often use on my EOS R (and soon on the R5). And a battered (to death!) R4 S2
I hated the microprism focusing screens so much that I replaced them with full matte screens from Leica's Customer Care, quite easy to do.
Sadly, they no longer sell spares...

Del Paso said:

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Much better condition than mine!
The Elmarit is a great lens on an EOS!
I still have the Summicron 90, APO 3,4/180, 2,8/28 (not good at all on digital), the APO macro 100, macro Elmarit 60, Telyt 560
and... a dozen cute little M lenses which I often use on my EOS R (and soon on the R5). And a battered (to death!) R4 S2
I hated the microprism focusing screens so much that I replaced them with full matte screens from Leica's Customer Care, quite easy to do.
Sadly, they no longer sell spares...

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This is a lot of pretty good glas, Del Paso. The 90mm Elmarit was my favourite lens. I made thousands of Kodak-Slides with the Leicaflex SL2 & 2.8/90 - wonderful colors! But my old eyes will not longer work properly with Manual-Focus and the Rangerfinder of the M did not make it better. So my analog times are over, memories only.

stevelee said:

Is that now true? Traditionally the rule of thumb was that lenses are at their best two stops down from wide open. When I was shooting the solar eclipse a few years back I was using the not-so-hot 75–300mm lens on my T3i. So I found tests of the lens that indicated it was best (or least bad) at f/11, so I used that for most of my shots. So I’m a bit skeptical of any statement as broad as yours seems to be.

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Sorry, I should have qualified the statement to say most lenses you would consider appropriate to a 120MP camera are best between f/4 and f/5.6. That applies to most f/1.4 to f/2.8 lenses these days. Clearly an f/5.6-f/8 zoom is not going to fall in that category, but it seems like a lot of the slower lenses are now about as good as they are going to get when wide open and that was not at all true in the past.

Berowne said:

This is a lot of pretty good glas, Del Paso. The 90mm Elmarit was my favourite lens. I made thousands of Kodak-Slides with the Leicaflex SL2 & 2.8/90 - wonderful colors! But my old eyes will not longer work properly with Manual-Focus and the Rangerfinder of the M did not make it better. So my analog times are over, memories only.

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Understand!
Autofocus saves us from a blurry darkness. Anyway, newer DSLRs cannot be focused as reliably as the Leicaflex, Minoltas and Nikons could.
And even digital Ms are far more demanding, especially with luminous lenses.
Yet, it's fun to play every now and then with these beautiful SLs and F2s, Canon's first F1 included of course.

Del Paso said:

Understand!
Autofocus saves us from a blurry darkness. Anyway, newer DSLRs cannot be focused as reliably as the Leicaflex, Minoltas and Nikons could.
And even digital Ms are far more demanding, especially with luminous lenses.
Yet, it's fun to play every now and then with these beautiful SLs and F2s, Canon's first F1 included of course.

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Sad news for me the day Kodachrome died.

Can't wait for cat butt images in 100 MP quality