A high megapixel camera is coming [CR2]

jeffa4444

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Im likely a minority but as with the 5DS that I still have and use, a 75mp version of the R5 should be aimed at photographers and not worry about 8K. The videographers are well catered for with the R5 and the R5c so why do they need a third R5 series camera?
The 5DS / 5DSr were favourites with landscape photographers and studio photographers and its the latter where Ive used the 5DS. This camera was better damped than the standard 5D MKIII and MKIV and had other improvements over the 5D MKIII it was based on all aimed at photographers.
Ive never shot a single clip of video on my Canon DSLRs or mirrorless cameras and Im sure Im not alone. I do shoot video but much prefer dedicated video cameras than compromises to be able to do both.
So based on the 5DS experience, mirrorless experience with the EOS R and R6 heres what I would like to see.
1. Better ISO than the 5DS provided
2. Better cable management for thethered shooting
3. Two CF express slots (75mp your need them)
4. Higher strobe sync speed
5. Same FPS as the R5 / R6 in both mechanical & electronic shutter

Other than that I think the AF, metering, button & control layout should stay the same as the R5 and I could see fashion, food & landscape professional photographers buying it in droves.
 
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AlanF

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You will need wide glass to make the most of 75 Mpx, like the RF 400 f/2.8 and 600 f/4. The diffraction limited aperture will be f/5.5 compared with f/7.1 of the R5. If I got one, I would for my bird photography pair it with an RF 500/4 if they could make it light enough. I previously noticed in practice that the 90D with its sensor equivalent to 82 Mpx FF and DLA of f/5.2 showed an f/4 400mm pulling ahead of a f/5.6 400mm relative to even the 5DSR.
If they removed the AA-filter, which becomes less important as Mpx increase, then that by itself would make an increase in resolution.
 
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Gazwas

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75 and well implemented sensor shift high res would be nice - I really liked the S1R when I had one here to test

I appreciate it's not something many want, but I've never stepped up in resolution with a new camera and thought 'that's too much'
I personally feel the only way Canon is going to give us a high resolution camera is via some sort of sensor shift technology with a more likely (for Canon) lower resolution sensor.
 
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entoman

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I've never stepped up in resolution with a new camera and thought 'that's too much'
We all have different needs.

Most wedding, events, sports and portrait photographers don't seem to have a need or desire for more than about 20-24MP. Wildlife photographers commonly see 36-45MP as the "sweet spot". Architectural, landscape, and billboard photographers want as much as they can get.

As I commented in an earlier post, I think dual resolution is the way forward, giving users the option to switch between say 80MP and uncropped 20MP simply by toggling a custom button. That way almost everyone gets what they want in a single body.
 
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tron

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I personally feel the only way Canon is going to give us a high resolution camera is via some sort of sensor shift technology with a more likely (for Canon) lower resolution sensor.
Oh no!! There will be people who will think that they should be able to use this technology for birding and that Canon would be slow if it could not! :ROFLMAO:
 
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canonnews

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I personally feel the only way Canon is going to give us a high resolution camera is via some sort of sensor shift technology with a more likely (for Canon) lower resolution sensor.
The Canon 32.5MP class heading resolution APS-C sensor waves hello to you. That's is basically the same as 82MP on a full frame sized sensor.
 
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entoman

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Maybe - until sony showed what 61MP can do. there's no sweet spot for providing more pixels on a target and allowing for more reach.
Among the roughly 20 Sony wildlife photographers that I personally know, 2 of them use the 50MP a1, and the rest all use the 24MP a9 and a9ii.

The 61MP a7Riv seems to be mostly bought by landscape photographers. Just a personal observation of a limited sample, of course.
 
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AlanF

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We all have different needs.

Most wedding, events, sports and portrait photographers don't seem to have a need or desire for more than about 20-24MP. Wildlife photographers commonly see 36-45MP as the "sweet spot". Architectural, landscape, and billboard photographers want as much as they can get.

As I commented in an earlier post, I think dual resolution is the way forward, giving users the option to switch between say 80MP and uncropped 20MP simply by toggling a custom button. That way almost everyone gets what they want in a single body.
45 to 50 Mpx is the minimum for me nowadays. Anything less than that is worse than a 20 Mpx APS-C. More than that, I'll have to see how it works out in practice. I didn't like the files from the 90D.
 
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tapanit

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Why do people want more than 50 mpex on 35mm? Honest question. Thx.
Because they cannot afford more than that. :)

I don't see any limit to the desire of more pixels - as long as they actually provide more detail, there's obviously no point in having more pixels than your lens can resolve, for example.

Of course for most uses 45 or 30 or even 20 megapixels are more than enough, but there are use cases where more is always better.
 
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Gazwas

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The Canon 32.5MP class heading resolution APS-C sensor waves hello to you. That's is basically the same as 82MP on a full frame sized sensor.
I don’t know how quad pixel AF will work but the 75MP sensor rumour probably have more to do with the technology used in this system rather than the output resolution of the camera.

I just don’t think Canon sees high resolution as the future or that 120MP sensor from way back would have made an appearance by now. Speed, AF and video are what future Canon camera buyers want. When Canon jumps to 12K or 16K video resolutions is when we will see a massive bumps in stills camera resolution IMO.
 
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entoman

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45 to 50 Mpx is the minimum for me nowadays. Anything less than that is worse than a 20 Mpx APS-C. More than that, I'll have to see how it works out in practice. I didn't like the files from the 90D.
Everything is a compromise and we all have different needs and priorities. Some prioritise high ISO, others prioritise resolution or DR, others prioritise fps. Unfortunately there is no "one size fits all". You say 45-50MP is your current minimum requirement, but a couple of days ago you were extolling the virtues of the 20MP OMI, and saying how good the 20MP Nikon D500 still is, which seems a little contradictory.

My view is that at any stage in the history of digital photography there will be a "sweet spot" beyond which there are diminishing returns. For you it's currently "45-50MP" which indicates you'd like more. For me, once we go above about 60MP there is more to be lost than to be gained, although technology will eventually overcome the issues :-

Focusing accuracy, subject movement and camera-shake all suffer as MP increases, and have to be compensated for by developing better stabilisation, and better high ISO noise control to allow faster shutter speeds. There is also the issue of diffraction, once pixel density increases, although that may ultimately be solved by in-camera AI technology.

Another limiting factor on MP is the file sizes, which impact greatly on transmission and post-processing speed, although less so on storage capacity with 4TB or greater SSD hard drives available these days.
 
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Fischer

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Better late than never. Lets hope they nail its like the 5dsR!
R3 body please :)

75mp is perfect - give us 15+ stops & posibly 4k30fps if I ever needa grab a rare quick video for an architect. Just dont leave it too late or i'll be jumping to the GFX. This will also be a pre-release purchase for me just like the 5dsR that was a good investment for 7-8+ year life cycle

Will be using my DSRLs until this comes out.. keep the TS-E lens - possibly grab a 24 100 RF zoom, then the 100-500 that looks mouth watering..
Had some regrets having sold my 5DSR in anticipation of a high MPIX R comming out early after the R5/R6. But Covid severely limited my shooting opportunities, so maybe a good thing after all.
 
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Fischer

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Focusing accuracy, subject movement and camera-shake all suffer as MP increases
None of this is true.

You may be able to see technical faults better because you are tempted to zoom in more but at the same output size - which is the only thing that matters - high MPIX cameras are never a disadvantage - only possibly at an advantage.
 
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