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I don’t think so. With FF coming down in price, the need for an APS-C body to carry for an “emergency” isn’t required. Also, FF has come down in size as well.
For me, a cheap FF body (RP replacement) would be ideal. I don't want an APS-C body as it would mean carrying additional wide angle lenses
The excuse that you get longer reach with APS-C gas never made sense to me anyway. Just crop your image. Yes, the apsc tele’s are smaller, but when has a company made serious long APS-C tele glass since FF has come out? Would thy really sell enough $5,000 to $12,000 APS-C lenses? I don’t think so. What about extreme wides and zooms? I doubt it.
"reach" is pixels-on-duck. Crop on R5 is ~17mp ie about the same as 7D vs 32mp with 90D/M6ii/R7.
Reach also means that telephoto lenses are cheaper... you can use a 70-200mm/2.8 instead of a 300/2.8. RF100-400 instead of RF100-500 or the big whites.
No need for APS-C telephoto glass as EF/RF options are already there.
You do need wide angle APS-C lenses though ie down to 10mm (16mm ff equivalent). I doubt that anyone is using the EF11-24mm on a crop sensor :)

these companies have experimented over the decades, and it seems that the large majority of customers have said - FF.
I am not sure if the market has said ff but it is a major differentiator vs phones for higher profit margins. Not sure it is a majority though given the volume/% of M series and rebel/kiss etc bodies that have been sold.
 
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People who would have never touched a camera now use their smartphones to take photos.
If Canon can get even a fraction of those folks to upgrade to a Canon camera then that would be a gold mine.
Watching what iPhone photo quality I believe the low end is done. I really am starting to believe Apples iphones now and in future with AI photo software, instant cloud storage, 3 protected lenses you don't need to care about, learn to use, attach, detach, clean with special cloth, and all other esoteric factors will take over the low end completely. Especially since anybody even children with easy human interface software can use them with zero photography experience. The phone camera sensors and AI software will eventually be much smarter at taking photos than most adult humans if not already.

Whatever low end sales are left will be low volume niche users like myself that want faster lenses, convenience, inexpensive, light weight, small and understands FOV, F numbers, DOF, Bokeh, and all other limitations and photo nomenclature gibberish.

Whereas the average person buying a $700-$1200 phone device gets all sorts of benefits like instant messages and calling in live video phone all in addition to taking photos and cares only about posting facebook snapshots of their latte or breakfast to impress their superficial online followers. Sounds pessimistic, but that's what I see and perhaps why they are dropping the M line, as I bet sales volume numbers have been really dwindling. But I am no Apple fan.


Apple operates a closed shop... 'it just works" wins loyal and enthusiastic customers every day. Some hate the thought of a closed ecosystem and votes with their dollars elsewhere but Apple is still extremely profitable

"It just works" = 5 years, lol.

Sweat shops are always profitable with high margins from slave labor building their products that are designed to be replaced every 5 years has been quite a good business. The cult followers help also, some people are so monagamous to their product line, yet FOMO on the latest model religious fervor cause them to replace every other year. They gather smiling as they are waiting with Visa card in hand in the changing September weather overnight for 2 days in a line outside to buy the latest phone. If you look from a distance, it is hilarious.

I admit, I have owned their junk the first iPod (still operates), (3) iphones (Worthless now, one took excellent photos), ipad failed, 2 imac's failed and macbook keyboard failed. All of these have been sitting on desks, not transported, well taken care of, used only by me with no accidents like dropping them or children spilling drinks on them, etc. yet all died within 5-7 years for various reasons from crappy keyboard hardware, failing buttons, and components. Power connector with the magnet was nice though.

No support for newer OS's which eventually block your browser operating to log into the bank.... that's the best excuse to upgrade. Not me, instead of tossing them out as junk, I rescued them with external SSD's and Linux. Linux really saved them from the landfill, just wish decent Linux phones were available. So crippling along, the 12 year old large iMac screen is really nice- hence why I fixed it, surprised with the design flaw of overheating with the internal HDD it hasn't killed the CPU thermal paste.

Not only that low MTBF on their junk, now the phones (always non-removeable battery) cannot be completely turned off. ICYMI, both Goofball Android and Rotten Apple surveillance capitalism spying with BLE tracking AFTER you turn off the phone is ridiculous. I will not buy any more Apple or Non de-googled Android phones.

No more Dell either, no long term support and the incessant pushing unwanted "You are eligible for upgrading" messages daily after a stupid Windows 10 update killed the wifi and HDMI a few months ago. Suspicious timing. Product lifespans have really decreased this past decade, by design.

But fortunately the good news is unlike computer industry products, my 16 year old Canon powershot camera, Canon 20D, Canon lenses, and the rest still work fine and never had issues other than battery failures. But it remains to be seen if the latest camera body products might not survive as long, if they decide to cut corners for profit pressure and move away from their past emphasis on excellent Japanese quality.
 
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Fascinating... does this alleviate dual back button focus ie can you restrict it to switching between eye-AF and single point?
Not sure about restricting, but you can switch between tracking and spot AF very easily, as tracking is the leftmost mode and spot is the next one. The problem is, you cannot use it to switch between tracking mode with auto starting point and tracking mode with manual spot starting point. I normally use the latter, but sometimes need the former.

So, I still have one back button configured for "eye-AF", not really to select the eye, but mostly to force auto starting point for tracking.
 
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Watching what iPhone photo quality I believe the low end is done. I really am starting to believe Apples iphones now and in future with AI photo software, instant cloud storage, 3 protected lenses you don't need to care about, learn to use, attach, detach, clean with special cloth, and all other esoteric factors will take over the low end completely. Especially since anybody even children with easy human interface software can use them with zero photography experience. The phone camera sensors and AI software will eventually be much smarter at taking photos than most adult humans if not already.

Whatever low end sales are left will be low volume niche users like myself that want faster lenses, convenience, inexpensive, light weight, small and understands FOV, F numbers, DOF, Bokeh, and all other limitations and photo nomenclature gibberish.

Whereas the average person buying a $700-$1200 phone device gets all sorts of benefits like instant messages and calling in live video phone all in addition to taking photos and cares only about posting facebook snapshots of their latte or breakfast to impress their superficial online followers. Sounds pessimistic, but that's what I see and perhaps why they are dropping the M line, as I bet sales volume numbers have been really dwindling. But I am no Apple fan.




"It just works" = 5 years, lol.

Sweat shops are always profitable with high margins from slave labor building their products that are designed to be replaced every 5 years has been quite a good business. The cult followers help also, some people are so monagamous to their product line, yet FOMO on the latest model religious fervor cause them to replace every other year. They gather smiling as they are waiting with Visa card in hand in the changing September weather overnight for 2 days in a line outside to buy the latest phone. If you look from a distance, it is hilarious.

I admit, I have owned their junk the first iPod (still operates), (3) iphones (Worthless now, one took excellent photos), ipad failed, 2 imac's failed and macbook keyboard failed. All of these have been sitting on desks, not transported, well taken care of, used only by me with no accidents like dropping them or children spilling drinks on them, etc. yet all died within 5-7 years for various reasons from crappy keyboard hardware, failing buttons, and components. Power connector with the magnet was nice though.

No support for newer OS's which eventually block your browser operating to log into the bank.... that's the best excuse to upgrade. Not me, instead of tossing them out as junk, I rescued them with external SSD's and Linux. Linux really saved them from the landfill, just wish decent Linux phones were available. So crippling along, the 12 year old large iMac screen is really nice- hence why I fixed it, surprised with the design flaw of overheating with the internal HDD it hasn't killed the CPU thermal paste.

Not only that low MTBF on their junk, now the phones (always non-removeable battery) cannot be completely turned off. ICYMI, both Goofball Android and Rotten Apple surveillance capitalism spying with BLE tracking AFTER you turn off the phone is ridiculous. I will not buy any more Apple or Non de-googled Android phones.

No more Dell either, no long term support and the incessant pushing unwanted "You are eligible for upgrading" messages daily after a stupid Windows 10 update killed the wifi and HDMI a few months ago. Suspicious timing. Product lifespans have really decreased this past decade, by design.

But fortunately the good news is unlike computer industry products, my 16 year old Canon powershot camera, Canon 20D, Canon lenses, and the rest still work fine and never had issues other than battery failures. But it remains to be seen if the latest camera body products might not survive as long, if they decide to cut corners for profit pressure and move away from their past emphasis on excellent Japanese quality.
You have had a couple of mails about Apple computers having a 5-year lifetime. Your experience on Apple products doesn't match mine over 35 years. Never had an iPhone, MacBook, desktop etc fail. It is reported, for example, by our UK consumers association Which that Apple has the top slot in reliability and customer satisfaction for laptops with 88% of MacBooks not having had a fault in their first 7 years.

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Watching what iPhone photo quality I believe the low end is done. I really am starting to believe Apples iphones now and in future with AI photo software, instant cloud storage, 3 protected lenses you don't need to care about, learn to use, attach, detach, clean with special cloth, and all other esoteric factors will take over the low end completely. Especially since anybody even children with easy human interface software can use them with zero photography experience. The phone camera sensors and AI software will eventually be much smarter at taking photos than most adult humans if not already.

Whatever low end sales are left will be low volume niche users like myself that want faster lenses, convenience, inexpensive, light weight, small and understands FOV, F numbers, DOF, Bokeh, and all other limitations and photo nomenclature gibberish.

Whereas the average person buying a $700-$1200 phone device gets all sorts of benefits like instant messages and calling in live video phone all in addition to taking photos and cares only about posting facebook snapshots of their latte or breakfast to impress their superficial online followers. Sounds pessimistic, but that's what I see and perhaps why they are dropping the M line, as I bet sales volume numbers have been really dwindling. But I am no Apple fan.




"It just works" = 5 years, lol.

Sweat shops are always profitable with high margins from slave labor building their products that are designed to be replaced every 5 years has been quite a good business. The cult followers help also, some people are so monagamous to their product line, yet FOMO on the latest model religious fervor cause them to replace every other year. They gather smiling as they are waiting with Visa card in hand in the changing September weather overnight for 2 days in a line outside to buy the latest phone. If you look from a distance, it is hilarious.

I admit, I have owned their junk the first iPod (still operates), (3) iphones (Worthless now, one took excellent photos), ipad failed, 2 imac's failed and macbook keyboard failed. All of these have been sitting on desks, not transported, well taken care of, used only by me with no accidents like dropping them or children spilling drinks on them, etc. yet all died within 5-7 years for various reasons from crappy keyboard hardware, failing buttons, and components. Power connector with the magnet was nice though.

No support for newer OS's which eventually block your browser operating to log into the bank.... that's the best excuse to upgrade. Not me, instead of tossing them out as junk, I rescued them with external SSD's and Linux. Linux really saved them from the landfill, just wish decent Linux phones were available. So crippling along, the 12 year old large iMac screen is really nice- hence why I fixed it, surprised with the design flaw of overheating with the internal HDD it hasn't killed the CPU thermal paste.

Not only that low MTBF on their junk, now the phones (always non-removeable battery) cannot be completely turned off. ICYMI, both Goofball Android and Rotten Apple surveillance capitalism spying with BLE tracking AFTER you turn off the phone is ridiculous. I will not buy any more Apple or Non de-googled Android phones.

No more Dell either, no long term support and the incessant pushing unwanted "You are eligible for upgrading" messages daily after a stupid Windows 10 update killed the wifi and HDMI a few months ago. Suspicious timing. Product lifespans have really decreased this past decade, by design.

But fortunately the good news is unlike computer industry products, my 16 year old Canon powershot camera, Canon 20D, Canon lenses, and the rest still work fine and never had issues other than battery failures. But it remains to be seen if the latest camera body products might not survive as long, if they decide to cut corners for profit pressure and move away from their past emphasis on excellent Japanese quality.
Nice rant, thanks for sharing.

I’ve owned or used (work-provided) a few dozen Macs since my first one (a Macintosh SE with the optional ‘massive, never-to-be-filled’ 20 MB hard drive bought in 1987, and I always lol at that because one R3 CR3 file is bigger). I gave that Mac to the lab where I did my postdoc, and it was still in the lab running a spectrophotometer until at least 2004 (well after I left), happily acquiring data.

My 12 year old MacBook Pro (Mid-2010 17”) is still used daily by my son (it’s older than him). It was my main personal computer until 3 years ago. My wife’s 14 year old MacBook (Late 2008 13” Aluminum) still boots and runs, and it was her main computer until 2 years ago. Her 2004 12”PowerBook G4 still boots and runs, it’s the oldest computer in our house and I keep meaning to pull the HDD and recycle it.

I’ve only ever had one Mac fail, a 2019 16” MacBook Pro (work-provided) that had a bad RAM module and started glitching. That happened during the warranty period.

My experience on the PC side is more limited. Only one company I’ve worked for was PC-only (at first). I was there for 10 years, and in the first 7 years I went through 5 Windows laptops, mostly HP. Only one made it to the 3-year EOL policy replacement, the other 4 failed for various hardware reasons. Then they started a pilot program for Mac use, and I had that laptop for the 3 years until I left.

I’m definitely an Apple fan. I’m on my 5th iPhone, the first was a 3G in 2008 (but I didn’t wait in a line, and never have). My current is a 14 Pro, which I’ll keep for at least 3 years as I’ve done with all my others. None have stopped working, although I did drop one and break the back glass, a $30 fix at the Apple Store.

We have a 2003 iPod (15 GB, the first one with the dock connector), it’s connected to the TV soundbar/subwoofer system in our basement. Has our current music on it because those 12-14 year old still-functional MacBooks have the necessary FireWire ports. We have a bunch of other iPods as well (Shuffles, a Nano, a Mini and a Touch, many I received free as promotional gifts over the years), none of them failed while we were using them.

I also have a really old Apple TV (first or second generation, I think) that still works (for mirroring computers, at least). I did just buy 3 of the recently released 128 GB model, I have not gotten around to connecting them yet. The reason for that is that several of the streaming apps we use are no longer supported on our Samsung TVs, and connecting an Apple TV is a cheaper way to continue accessing that content, than replacing otherwise perfectly functional TVs.

That speaks to the issue of software/OS obsolescence about which you are complaining, but it’s definitely not just an Apple problem as you imply. A five year old Mac can still run the current version of macOS, but my five year old Samsung TVs could never stream Disney+ or HBO-Max and now can no longer stream Hulu.

So basically, over a 35 year period I’ve had 60-70 Apple products, only one of which failed due to a hardware fault. That’s less than 2% failure rate.

Canon for me has a substantially worse track record. I bought my first Canon camera in 2009, a T1i/500D. Including that one, I’ve owned 4 DSLRs, 3 Ms, 2 Rs and 3 PowerShots. The lens extension mechanism on the PowerShot S100 broke (recycled the camera), the original M just died post-warranty (buying an M2 was only $20 more than Canon’s flat repair charge, so the M was recycled), and the PCB in my 1D X failed (a $200 repair). So for Canon, that’s a 25% failure rate. For bodies, that is…I’ve never had a lens fail, and I own/have owned a whole bunch of them so overall, the Canon hardware failure rate is probably about the same as Apple for me.
 
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these companies have experimented over the decades, and it seems that the large majority of customers have said - FF
There has been a concentration on full-frame cameras but, at least this year, companies have been pushing crop sensors.
Z 30, Z FC, OM-1, GH-6, R10, R7, ZV-1F, FX30, X-H2, X-H2S, and XT5.
 
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Nice rant, thanks for sharing.

I’ve owned or used (work-provided) a few dozen Macs since my first one (a Macintosh SE with the optional ‘massive, never-to-be-filled’ 20 MB hard drive bought in 1987, and I always lol at that because one R3 CR3 file is bigger). I gave that Mac to the lab where I did my postdoc, and it was still in the lab running a spectrophotometer until at least 2004 (well after I left), happily acquiring data.

My 12 year old MacBook Pro (Mid-2010 17”) is still used daily by my son (it’s older than him). It was my main personal computer until 3 years ago. My wife’s 14 year old MacBook (Late 2008 13” Aluminum) still boots and runs, and it was her main computer until 2 years ago. Her 2004 12”PowerBook G4 still boots and runs, it’s the oldest computer in our house and I keep meaning to pull the HDD and recycle it.

I’ve only ever had one Mac fail, a 2019 16” MacBook Pro (work-provided) that had a bad RAM module and started glitching. That happened during the warranty period.

My experience on the PC side is more limited. Only one company I’ve worked for was PC-only (at first). I was there for 10 years, and in the first 7 years I went through 5 Windows laptops, mostly HP. Only one made it to the 3-year EOL policy replacement, the other 4 failed for various hardware reasons. Then they started a pilot program for Mac use, and I had that laptop for the 3 years until I left.

I’m definitely an Apple fan. I’m on my 5th iPhone, the first was a 3G in 2008 (but I didn’t wait in a line, and never have). My current is a 14 Pro, which I’ll keep for at least 3 years as I’ve done with all my others. None have stopped working, although I did drop one and break the back glass, a $30 fix at the Apple Store.

We have a 2003 iPod (15 GB, the first one with the dock connector), it’s connected to the TV soundbar/subwoofer system in our basement. Has our current music on it because those 12-14 year old still-functional MacBooks have the necessary FireWire ports. We have a bunch of other iPods as well (Shuffles, a Nano, a Mini and a Touch, many I received free as promotional gifts over the years), none of them failed while we were using them.

I also have a really old Apple TV (first or second generation, I think) that still works (for mirroring computers, at least). I did just buy 3 of the recently released 128 GB model, I have not gotten around to connecting them yet. The reason for that is that several of the streaming apps we use are no longer supported on our Samsung TVs, and connecting an Apple TV is a cheaper way to continue accessing that content, than replacing otherwise perfectly functional TVs.

That speaks to the issue of software/OS obsolescence about which you are complaining, but it’s definitely not just an Apple problem as you imply. A five year old Mac can still run the current version of macOS, but my five year old Samsung TVs could never stream Disney+ or HBO-Max and now can no longer stream Hulu.

So basically, over a 35 year period I’ve had 60-70 Apple products, only one of which failed due to a hardware fault. That’s less than 2% failure rate.

Canon for me has a substantially worse track record. I bought my first Canon camera in 2009, a T1i/500D. Including that one, I’ve owned 4 DSLRs, 3 Ms, 2 Rs and 3 PowerShots. The lens extension mechanism on the PowerShot S100 broke (recycled the camera), the original M just died post-warranty (buying an M2 was only $20 more than Canon’s flat repair charge, so the M was recycled), and the PCB in my 1D X failed (a $200 repair). So for Canon, that’s a 25% failure rate. For bodies, that is…I’ve never had a lens fail, and I own/have owned a whole bunch of them so overall, the Canon hardware failure rate is probably about the same as Apple for me.

As the saying goes YMMV. My old iPod like yours still operates with that tiny hard drive inside. I bought the iMac that failed for example in 3rd world, so not sure if better QC for 1st world. Many products fall apart, home appliances especially, Maytag and Sears concepts gone forever. Owning all 60-70 Apple's is quite an investment. The SE was built differently, hence why reliable right? Nothing in computer HW in PC's anymore is quality like in the 80-90's. I didnt mention my multitude of PC's since 80's but not one HDD failure until 2000's. Daily 10 hrs per day use too. Had (2) 6 year old laptops fail in 2017 also, Toshiba and Dell, HDD's still worked so I yanked out and tossed the laptops.

But the past 20 years are different across the board. Smaller components, SOC's, more ribbon cables (Do you watch Louis Rossmanns Apple repair YT channel?)

I still believe Japanese and S Korea QC products QC dedication you can trust more than other SE Asia mfg. Look at how Hyundai and Kia have increased acceptance and market share. The design of Apple products to look nice is great. Software too, no disagreement. But latest BLE issue is really bad news imho.
 
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But fortunately the good news is unlike computer industry products, my 16 year old Canon powershot camera, Canon 20D, Canon lenses, and the rest still work fine and never had issues other than battery failures. But it remains to be seen if the latest camera body products might not survive as long, if they decide to cut corners for profit pressure and move away from their past emphasis on excellent Japanese quality.
Quality stereotypes for different countries is an interesting one. "Jap crap" was the initial poor quality coming out post WWII until kaizen/JIT convinced the world that they knew what they were talking about. The German car manufacturing had to catch up back in the 80s and 90s. Korea was then the next cheap source and now quality has caught up. China is the current one but due to the size/breadth of their manufacturing capability, there is still cheap stuff but quality is catching up.

If you want to bring up "sweat shops" then the rag trade is the poster industry moving recently from Vietnam to Bangladesh for instance in the hunt for the cheapest labour. Massive profits for plain white T-shirts for instance.

Africa is the last untapped labour pool and their baby-making rates are still high compared to the rest of the world. Future migration and its tax paying workforce will help support us during our doddering years.

In hindsight, the endless search for low labour costs does mean foreign investment and training for local people. They may be exploited if you compare to western health and safety legislation but it can bring long term economic benefits.
 
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"It just works" = 5 years, lol.

Sweat shops are always profitable with high margins from slave labor building their products that are designed to be replaced every 5 years has been quite a good business. The cult followers help also, some people are so monagamous to their product line, yet FOMO on the latest model religious fervor cause them to replace every other year. They gather smiling as they are waiting with Visa card in hand in the changing September weather overnight for 2 days in a line outside to buy the latest phone. If you look from a distance, it is hilarious.
Clearly YMMV but my (and my family's) experience with Apple's products has been stellar and simple things like airdrop just make non-iPhone users feel a bit useless. I don't want to be the system admin and I don't need to have experience with Linux to keep them running as an ecosystem.

My previous MBP was 7 years old before I put down a substantial chunk of cash for a new one. The old one didn't fail (except for an external power supply) but the R5's files for still/video were just too big for it to manage. Just one data point but it is clear that most Apple users are an avid bunch in general. I have the same positive experience with Lexus and am happy to buy their premium models. What company wouldn't want positive promoters even if they have a misstep eg the butterfly keyboard.

My experience with Windows based PCs is a very different story as I use them for work. 3-4 years max and have regular problems. I have a new Dell and the power cable flexes the motherboard and locks it up for a hard reboot. Yes, different price bracket but it is my personal experience. My 12pro max will easily last a 3rd year and save me AUD1k in the process by not upgrading.

Your language indicates quite an anti-Apple zeal... and perhaps it is equally negative as the people you describe with religious fervour on the other side.
 
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You have had a couple of mails about Apple computers having a 5-year lifetime. Your experience on Apple products doesn't match mine over 35 years. Never had an iPhone, MacBook, desktop etc fail. It is reported, for example, by our UK consumers association Which that Apple has the top slot in reliability and customer satisfaction for laptops with 88% of MacBooks not having had a fault in their first 7 years.

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The Steve Jobs marketing genius and PR machine still lives. Glad you and others are happy paying $1000+ for a cell phone that spies on you, stock holders have been quite happy too and all that extra free cash parked and buy backs.

When in the future they build EV's like Tesla, they too will have more devoted followers. Apple customers are like a religious cult, it would be blasphemous to criticize them in public. I would risk getting stoned to death if I were to drive by and laugh as they stand in line in the store front to buy the latest thing.

 
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The Steve Jobs marketing genius and PR machine still lives. Glad you and others are happy paying $1000+ for a cell phone that spies on you, stock holders have been quite happy too and all that extra free cash parked and buy backs.

When in the future they build EV's like Tesla, they too will have more devoted followers. Apple customers are like a religious cult, it would be blasphemous to criticize them in public. I would risk getting stoned to death if I were to drive by and laugh as they stand in line in the store front to buy the latest thing.
If the choice is between the Apple iphone ecosystem and most Android set-ups, I know where I would feel most secure. You're entitled to think the opposite (obviously), but your fervour and hyperbole don't seem to be indicative of an evidence-based thought process.
 
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Your language indicates quite an anti-Apple zeal... and perhaps it is equally negative as the people you describe with religious fervour on the other side

Soapbox time sorry. I have, like many others been a customer and watched in amazement the acceptance of the erosion of privacy in the computer- tech- internet- info-youaretheptoduct industry devolve since 1982. Its not just Apple, but they are the worst. There is a movement to get away from it, Futo.org has a billionaire funding developers to bring us back to normalcy like 80's when your data is your data, not snooped on with Aurora store, F-droid, Micro-G projects in the De-googled world. I posted a video above from Braxman, who has developed SW since 70's and also promotes education in avoiding Behemoth tech.
 
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but your fervour and hyperbole don't seem to be indicative of an evidence-based thought process.
You need to educate yourself before making such conclusions that what I state is some hyperbole. Read up on in BLE, Airtags, wifi scanning, Amazon sidewalk, mesh networks, Prism, Palintir, Jigsaw, etc etc.. YT channels like Futo.org, Rossmann, Braxman are places to start it is a very deep and intrusive system being used. MS 10 telemetry in Cortana and Edge keylogging too.

The "passports" for "contact tracing" nonsense on Apple phones were simply pushed to everyone's phones in a security update in 2020, no choice to opt out. Also the Apple csam outbound scanning every device. Highly intrusive. This isn't new either, its been drip fed for years. Plenty of subject matter to study above then if you want to continue the debate, start another thread.
 
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If Canon does not really put much effort into RF-S lenses, they should allow third party manufacturers to produce those. That would be a nice start. The problem would be of course that those lenses also work on full frame. So they would have to have sure that Tamron and Sigma do not provide a full frame image circle on their RF-S glass.
Agree, Canon should allow Tamron and SIgma to make native RF-S lens. That'll close the lens gaps. Tamron and Sigma has crop sensor lenses for X, E, L and Z mounts. They'll re-use them. Canon could restrict lenses for FF image circle i.e. RF lens.
 
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Clearly YMMV but my (and my family's) experience with Apple's products has been stellar and simple things like airdrop just make non-iPhone users feel a bit useless. I don't want to be the system admin and I don't need to have experience with Linux to keep them running as an ecosystem.
+1

I offer my new employees a choice of a Mac or Windows laptop, most choose Macs but a few choose Windows. I have an IT provider that manages them. At home we’re all Apple, and there’s no real management needed.

AirDrop is great, the new Universal Control and Continuity are awesome. I love that I can drag-and-drop files from one computer to another, or copy some text on my phone and paste it on my Mac.

I’ll see how the new Lenovo PCs hold up. Spec wise and cost wise, they’re very close to the equivalent Mac (if Apppe had stuck with Intel chips). They’ve got fingerprint sensors for logging in, too (I have no idea who started that). But Apple now has a fingerprint sensor on the external keyboard, which is great for clamshell use with an external display. Of course, being fully Apole-ized is better still – I wake up and put on my Apple Watch, then unlocking my iPhone with my face unlocks the watch. Then the watch logs me in to my Macs for the whole day, lid open or closed. So yes, It Just Works.
 
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