The Canon EOS R5 Mark II coming in Q2, 2023? [CR2]

Seems logical at this point to say that an R5 Mark II will come sooner rather than later. Perhaps I am wrong, but I think it would be strange for Canon to not update one their most, if not THE most, recognized mirrorless camera in their lineup with at least the new hot shoe to keep it in line with their other current offerings (ie: the R6 Mark II and R3).

The rest of the specs look interesting. I wonder if there will be a price increase if these specs come to fruition, as this appears to be a more substantial revision than the R6 Mark II.

eoskai said:

No wayyyy lol, just got the r5. Realistically it’s enough camera for me and anything lacking can be added in firmware.

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But is Canon likely to add what is lacking with firmware upgrades?

entoman said:

Could it be that Canon has decided to use a Sony sensor for this model,

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Then it wouldn't have "Dual Pixel CMOS AF II".

entoman said:

or did the person who originated the rumour have a Sony sensor on his wish-list?

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Highly likely.

entoman said:

Funny that no one else has mentioned this - I find it quite interesting that the rumour (with an 'o' ) talks about a 61MP sensor.

Seems like a strange coincidence that the Sony a7Rv has a 61MP sensor, and 61 is not a size that we were expecting from Canon.

Could it be that Canon has decided to use a Sony sensor for this model, or did the person who originated the rumour have a Sony sensor on his wish-list?

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No, it won't be a Sony sensor. This is because the Canon sensor has DPAF, which requires a different sensor design than the Sony.

PhotoGenerous said:

Is the digital teleconverter basically crop mode but at other ratios other than 1.6x?

2x mode is 61mp ÷ 2 = 31.5?
4x mode is 61mp ÷ 4 = 15.25?
8x mode is 61mp ÷8 = 7.625?

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That’s not how zoom works.
2x crop -> 61/ 2^2 = 15.25 …
4x -> 61/16
8x -> 61/64

Was pretty intrigued with this "rumor". On my part I don't think it deserves even a CR2 rating, YMMV. It just felt like someone wants their A7R V in an EOS R style body with RF mount dreamed up this spec list.

It must be such a coincidence that Canon out of nowhere suddenly wants to make their own exact own 61mp sensor just to match up head on. (Even though they were known to have 80mp, 100+mp sensors.) And immediately magically gained the ability to have both the multi shot high res mode as all other company has with the IMX 455 sensor variant inside their bodies, and digital tele zoom function. Then they also want to "learn" from Sony and Nikon as to also "reinvent" the multi angle LCD(just like some new recent camera models released did.) even though they were known for one of the greatest flipping LCD gold standard.

Based on how I've been knowing and dealing with Canon I'd say these sounds almost hilarious. Clearly someone wants their next camera to be an exact baby from a drunken canon and sony after a session in back alley behind a bar. As for whether they could really speak for Canon's next product, your guess is as good as mine.

In all honesty though, I couldn't rule out anything absolutely not happening. Due to the nature of rumors and stuff. Who knows. All I'm sayin is this is about as ridiculous a rumor has turned out to be so far that I'd been following this site.

momiji8839 said:

And immediately magically gained the ability to have both the multi shot high res mode as all other company has with the IMX 455 sensor variant inside their bodies, and digital tele zoom function.

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The 6DII has a Digital Teleconverter (crop and upscale) function, so that wouldn’t be magically appearing in an R5II.

I wonder if this could be the R5s? Especially with the high megapixel sensor.
This would be a Sony a7rv killer.
If this rumor turns out to be true, all I can say is sh ut up and take my money! lol

Specs sound good

The only thing I'd like to add to them is they need to do something to improve battery life vs the R5

Mine lives with the grip on it but Id much prefer when im just out and about to use it without the grip and not need to carry 3 or 4 extra batteries to get me through the day.

I don´t really believe in this rumor.
Giving 61 mp to the R5 mk ii is an awful big jump and would eliminate a lot of potential buyers for an even higher resolution camera, it might even kill it as a potential niche camera. Knowing Canon market segmentation strategy, I can't believe it. It would also be an overkill (think of all the RAW files) for a lot of R5 users, at least when reading in different forums.

Furthermore, 61 MP would not enough for high-res version because it is basically "just what Sony" has and not much more than a Sony A1 or so.

Finally, some specs simply sound like there were taken from the Sony A7RV... the EVF, the mp, multi-shot function...

Imho, I believe Canon will differentiate the R5/ R5s/ R1 quite well. I'd expect an R5mkii to have a about 50mp, the R1 to come in at 60-62 mp (which would more than enough for a "do-it-all-at-a-fantastic-level) and real specialized, niche R5s with about 77MP or 80 MP (and closing in to 100MP with mkii/ mkiii in years to come)

The only way I´d believe the R5mkii would indeed be given a huge MP jump, was if the R6mkii had been pushed to 30/ 35 MP. That didn't happen, instead it just got slightly more MP. That's what's going to happen to the R5mkII imho.

neuroanatomist said:

Cropped and upscaled in-camera to the native sensor resolution, jpg output only.

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Thank you for explaining, I couldn't find an exact explanation for the digital converter anywhere so far.
Do you have any experience using it? Does it affect IQ? For me, this digital converter sounds highly interesting since I don't own big whites (I have the 100-500mm though) and need to "crop for reach" a lot...

Exploreshootshare said:

Thank you for explaining, I couldn't find an exact explanation for the digital converter anywhere so far.
Do you have any experience using it? Does it affect IQ? For me, this digital converter sounds highly interesting since I don't own big whites (I have the 100-500mm though) and need to "crop for reach" a lot...

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Digital converter is an unexpected inclusion on a pro-level camera, so it will be interesting to see what sort of result Canon's interpolation algorithms can produce, but I'd be very surprised if they can match the results obtained by using Topaz Gigapixel.

neuroanatomist said:

Cropped and upscaled in-camera to the native sensor resolution, jpg output only.

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Would be nice if Canon would also support HEIF output out as well, but only time will tell.

My suggestion for good camera
1) M2 SSD slot
2) price not more that 1700 US Dollars
3) ISO 25000 without any noise like what we see on ISO 800 today
4) Dynamic range + 2.5 stops from current values

I think it will good camera

alexander.bigel said:

My suggestion for good camera
1) M2 SSD slot
2) price not more that 1700 US Dollars
3) ISO 25000 without any noise like what we see on ISO 800 today
4) Dynamic range + 2.5 stops from current values

I think it will good camera

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Those aren't the specs and pricing of a "good" camera, instead it is a completely unrealistic, dream fantasy camera.
Having five full stops of better ISO performance and 2,5 stops in DR for just 1.700 $???

Just for having this kind of ISO performance, there'd be several people willing to pay 5-10 K $ for the camera alone. Just think of wild-life shooters who shoot from dusk to dawn or astrophotographers.

Exploreshootshare said:

Thank you for explaining, I couldn't find an exact explanation for the digital converter anywhere so far.
Do you have any experience using it? Does it affect IQ? For me, this digital converter sounds highly interesting since I don't own big whites (I have the 100-500mm though) and need to "crop for reach" a lot...

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I haven’t used an R6II.

From Canon: Digital teleconverter: One-touch extra reach

Will R5 MarkII have GPS built in - like the R3 - finally ?

JoeP said:

Will R5 MarkII have GPS built in - like the R3 - finally ?

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.... or some DSLRs already been born BC ....

neuroanatomist said:

Because that’s not how the Digital Teleconverter works.

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Do you mean the whole sensor would have to be read in crop?

neuroanatomist said:

Cropped and upscaled in-camera to the native sensor resolution, jpg output only.

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I understand the cropped image upscaled to fill the viewfinder. Upscale the jpg written to the memory card? Pointless. Even if its as good as post processing on a PC, why waste battery?