Don’t expect any third-party autofocus lenses in the near future
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Magic Lantern unlocked a lot of features that Canon wouldn't allow their engineers to support for whatever reason. raw video was one of them. Clearly Canon has a different philosophy now even allowing the R5 to have higher temperature settings. Some have suggested that this will wear bodies out faster but who is to know for sure. Canon Australia supports a 5 year warranty so I have no issues to use the higher temp setting.
ETTR mode automatically assigned the exposure so that there was no clipping. It saved any inadvertently underexposured images for instance if you have different metering mode. It should be easy to calculate for Canon as it can generate a histogram now.
Exposure compensation is a manually dialed in fixed amount that you choose.
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WTF. No not everyone is shooting movies. Most people probably are, but I couod gives a rats ass about it.
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You misread me --- another way to write my sentence would be to say "anyone who is shooting movies in 2022 should . . ." etc
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Yeah - reminds me of IBM redefining the PC interface with "Microchannel Architecture" in their new PS/2 range ...
A new and completely proprietary design, deliberately designed to prevent 3rd Party add-ons.
Well that didn't work out too well for IBM did it !
Compaq and other rivals cleaned up whilst IBM became hated by vast swathes of the PC user base as a result.
I can feel nothing but total contempt for Canon in this - it sucks.
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If I had relied on TDP only, I'd never have bought the EF 180 macro. It really looks mediocre at best on TDP's sharpness chart.
The text yet, speaks of excellent sharpness, which I can confirm. In fact, it's my sharpest canon lens...
It usually makes sense to mitigate the reviews with real-life experiences from actual users.
You can rely on TDP, most of the time...
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Every Canon EF lens launched after 2012(ish) should be able to get a firmware update from the body. This factored into my decision to replace my EF100L (launched 2009) with the RF100L, I didn't like the IBIS/ILIS interaction and since the lens couldn't get updated...
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Its image qualities for EF-M lenses don't match up with my experience, as have been some telephotos from Sigma and Tamron. I regretfully put off buying the 400mm DO II because its image IQ looked so bad on the TDP chart. The only reviews using charts I take seriously are from those who actually measure things using IMATEST or an optical bench because they have to set things up properly. Anyway, the only lens that counts is the one you have been sold, and so I buy only from reputable dealers who have a no-quibble return policy and I test thoroughly myself. I used to borrow from my local dealer to test before buying if he had it in stock already. It would be embarrassing if he had to order one in for me and I had to return it, so if he didn't have one in stock I'd order on-line.
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I bought the Tamron 100-400mm f/6.3 when it first came out and found it hopeless for easy birds in flight shots - the AF was very poor on my 5DIV. I sold it on at a loss after a couple of months. I tried several copies of the Sigma 100-400 from my local dealer and was unhappy with the IS and didn't buy. The 100-400mm II is in a different league from them, and it's not that heavy. I am always on the hunt for light telephotos.
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When the R system launched in 2018, Canon said that some of the extra pins were unused, to have a bit more leeway for future developments. I haven't heard anything new about those pins since then, the closest thing would be the fact that the R3 can deliver more power to focus motors. But that might be just a matter of using a higher voltage on the existing pins.
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Problem is, Canon's own line up is pathetic. I don't want weird, I want practical. I also DO NOT WANT to use adapters, I prefer a native lens.
I have a particular beef with the RF 100mm macro. It is overbloated with useless SA control (for most), then as a macro lens for skittish critters it has the front element closer to the subject at 1:1 when compared to the EF version, so that makes it a worse choice for me. It is a conundrum. Canon gave me a fancier lens, more expensive, heavier, and were it matters, it is worse. For me. Yes a conundrum it is.
I also want a decent NON zoom telephoto or a zoom that goes to 600mm, middle of the range, and not f-eleven. Nikon make some, Sony make some, Sigma make some, Tamron make some...... Canon, the world's biggest camera maker, loves f-eleven.
I have a particular beef with the RF 100mm macro. It is overbloated with useless SA control (for most), then as a macro lens for skittish critters it has the front element closer to the subject at 1:1 when compared to the EF version, so that makes it a worse choice for me. It is a conundrum. Canon gave me a fancier lens, more expensive, heavier, and were it matters, it is worse. For me. Yes a conundrum it is.
I also want a decent NON zoom telephoto or a zoom that goes to 600mm, middle of the range, and not f-eleven. Nikon make some, Sony make some, Sigma make some, Tamron make some...... Canon, the world's biggest camera maker, loves f-eleven.
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I think it would be very helpful if we could see Canon's lens lineup plans over the next 2-4 years. What are they going to produce, what time frame, things like that. They've filled a lot of essentials, but there are gaps. As well, there seems to be mid-range gap in many areas. It'd be a lot easier to see what the near term future holds.
I'm of a mind that once the lineup is filled out, Canon might license some third-party lenses into the lineup.
Frankly, I'd like to see Canon go the other way and produce top-tier lenses for other formats. Imagine L glass on your favorite Nikon or Olympus.
I'm of a mind that once the lineup is filled out, Canon might license some third-party lenses into the lineup.
Frankly, I'd like to see Canon go the other way and produce top-tier lenses for other formats. Imagine L glass on your favorite Nikon or Olympus.
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Odds are they do not sell as well or have as good a margin as
- 50mm
- 70-200mm
- 24-70mm
- 14-35mm
- 400mm
- 600mm
- 85mm
- 800mm
- etc
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.... and here's my 2 cents!
I think Canon had a pretty good RF line-up, and what you can't get in RF you can easily get in EF.
But I tend to agree with your criticisms of the RF 100mm macro, having replaced my EF 100mm IS macro with the RF version. Canon clearly wanted to be seen to add something "extra" to the new lens. For me the SA control is a complete waste, and the 1.4x reproduction ratio isn't something I need, as I rarely shoot closer than half life size. But I guess there are some people who'll appreciate the SA control (wedding & portrait photographers) and some who'll appreciate the 1.4x.
Using AF with the new lens requires a different approach. With the old lens I always used it in SERVO (continuous) AF, but could instantly switch to MF simply be releasing pressure on the shutter button. If I want to override the AF with the new lens I either have to switch to ONE SHOT AF, or assign a custom button to ONE SHOT, or flick the AF/MF switch on the lens. This is a slower and more cumbersome method, and the fact that the new lens tends to hunt a lot more than the old one, makes it more of a nuisance.
I also found the rubber of the focusing ring grippier on the old lens, and easier to locate by feel, when the camera is at eye-level. Another criticism frequently aimed at the RF version is that it suffers from focus-breathing, although in practice I've found that the shift is more than covered by the depth of field at the apertures I commonly use (F5.6-F9.5).
The RF version does have better OIS (or better integration between the OIS and IBIS), which reduces camera shake by an additional 1-2 stops compared to the EF version.
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I didn’t get into the Canon ecosystem all those years ago for slow prosumer zooms and shitty kit lenses. Are we saying that’s what Canon is now? Is f/2.8 the fastest they can do without horrid barrel distortion and vignetting?
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It would be helpful and encouraging if Canon produced a timeframe and list of lenses that they plan to release in the next 2-3 years, but plans often change, due to development issues, supply chain issues and various other factors, so I don't think we're likely to see this happen.
I agree completely that there needs eventually to be a middle-tier of high quality Canon glass, with modest maximum apertures, high build quality and sensible pricing. At the moment we have two extremes - expensive L exotica, or "affordable" lenses such as 16mm F2.8, 600mm F11 etc. But Canon is prioritising the lenses that it believes will sell in the largest numbers and bring in the highest profits. I think eventually the middle ground will be filled, but it isn't going to happen for at least another couple of years, as they haven't yet filled out the L range or the budget range.
Overall, Nikon glass is at least as good as Canon glass, and in some cases better. I can't see Canon or Nikon allowing the other to use their protocols.Frankly, I'd like to see Canon go the other way and produce top-tier lenses for other formats. Imagine L glass on your favorite Nikon or Olympus.
Same for Olympus - their Zuiko lenses are incredibly sharp, extremely well built, very light, compact and sensibly priced, so why would an OM user want to slap Canon glass on?
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Canon is a business.
RF mount started in 2018.
They're releasing ~8 lens SKU annually.
It has been 4 years so 32 lens SKUs so far.
These lenses have the fastest inventory turnover or a more favorable profit margin.
Next 4 years will be another 32 lens SKUs.
Odds are the low volume or/and thinner margin lens you want will be released within 4 years.
When you got into the EF mount odds are it was about 1-2 decades after its introduction in 1987.
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