The Canon EOS R8 will be announced at CP+ in February
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This rumor just seems a bit confused to me. Past rumors have indicated the next two aps-c cameras would be the R50 and R100. It would seem crazy to me to have a blogging camera with a single digit moniker unless it is basically a R7 minus evf but with a blog style flip screen. If it is truly the R10 sensor, that camera seems better named the R50 as was previously rumored.
Releasing a R8 with an aps-c sensor would all but kill any hope of a R or RP replacement as well. I would be shocked if the R8 wasn’t full frame but it wouldn’t be the first time. It is also what I hope for though after investing in the small f4 RF zooms as a full frame travel kit, I am hoping for a smaller FF body at some point to replace my RP. But you don’t always get what you want.
Releasing a R8 with an aps-c sensor would all but kill any hope of a R or RP replacement as well. I would be shocked if the R8 wasn’t full frame but it wouldn’t be the first time. It is also what I hope for though after investing in the small f4 RF zooms as a full frame travel kit, I am hoping for a smaller FF body at some point to replace my RP. But you don’t always get what you want.
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I'll be quite surprised if Canon knock out an R replacement. The "upgrade" replacement would by definition have to offer features lacking in the original R, notably an improved sensor, major improvements in AF, and above all IBIS. So basically it would be an R6ii but with a circa 33MP FF sensor. Sounds fine, but with the R5 and R6 series already in existence, what on Earth could they call it - R Five-and-a-half?
Likewise, I'll be surprised of the RP is replaced. Its place as the affordable novice model has already been snapped up by the crop-sensor R10, which is in many ways a better camera, and possibly beats the RP in image quality.
The "missing" model in the RF range is the affordable vlogging-orientated camera, and that I think is what the so-called "R8" is very likely to be. The R8 moniker is probably just a bit of CR guesswork, it could well be called something else entirely... All we really know, is that there will be a new body launched in February, and that it won't be an "R5s" or a "R1".
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I, too am confused by the idea that the R8 is an APS-C camera. I think it is possible that 2 cameras have been blended into one rumor. A differrent form factor vlogging camera seems far more likely to be a rumored R50 or R100. The R8 might be the rumored RP/R replacement. I would be shocked if Canon does not come out with a lower priced FF camera. Without having any actual stats, but watching the Amazon best seller lists over the years, it seems lower priced cameras of whatever category will sell more than higher priced cameras. For Canon customers looking to venture into full frame for the first time, or those who feel their RPs are in need of replacing, asking them to move into a $2500 camera range is wishful thinking, in my opinion. Nikon has the Z5 - often sold at around $1000 and the Z6 II, which comes in at under $2000 - so would be very surprised if Canon does not offer something (at least one camera, perhaps 2) to cover that price point in FF.
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I strongly disagree regarding the full-frame entry models. There is a need for them and I believe Canon intends to keep them.
First of all, Canon started selling a „cheap“ FF model and Nikon felt the need to release one as well. Sony keeps older models as cheap models in their line-up as well. Would canon really start selling cheaper ff models, state they’re thinking about releasing a sub 1.000 $ model and stop the line while they sell (very) well? I don’t think so…
Furthermore, RP/ R and potential successor(s) are the missing link in order to attract enthusiasts to eventually buy higher end lenses. An R/ RP gives one the opportunity to start out with affordable lenses such as 16mm/ 35mm and 50mm. Later, those customers might add an L lense or two. And if everything goes well (according to Canon) they might upgrade to an R6 for example.
Then, the lenses: if there really shouldn’t be an RP/ R successor(s), why did they release the RF 15-30mm? On a crop camera it would be an equivalent 23-48mm. That is already covered with an RFs 18-45mm which actually is wider and cheaper. Therefore, the 15-30mm must be intended for FF use. I don’t believe it was designed and intended for R6/R5 customers. Thex most likely will grab one of the F2.8/ F4 zooms with weather sealing etc. Further, I believe the RF 16mm, 24-105mm F4-7.1, RF 24-240mm are all designated lenses for full-frame entry level users.
Canon has to replace the xxxx/ xxx rebels EF customers because SP basically replaced those models for a lot of users. One possibility is a cheap entry full level camera and the other opportunity is to cater to a fairly new customer group, in this case the Vloggers.
Therefore, I do believe Canon will release both camera models: at least one cheap(er) FF and probably two vlogger oriented models. R8 should be FF and the vlogger cams will get different names. Maybe they will inherit the xxx digits.
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My understanding is that BSI is a great benefit when dealing with smaller sensors, as there is less wiring obscuring the pixel sensors and more light can get in, so you get better low light with BSI on say an iphone camera. With full frame, BSI doesn't appear to make much difference, as the sensor and light gathering is relatively huge already. APS-C may have a slight advantage, but there are so many other things I care about for my camera like ease of use, software, ergonomics and glass, that I think it ranks low for what people should care about when making a decision.
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Of course the 15-30mm is designed for FF cameras. But why do you believe it is only intended for R/RP customers? That's crazy. Just because someone owns an R5/R6 it doesn't mean they'll only buy L glass. Optically the "budget" RF lenses are more than good enough for most people - the RF100-400mm for example produces extremely sharp photos on my R5, with nicer bokeh than the RF100-500mm, and is a fraction of the cost and weight. Not everyone needs their lenses to be weatherproof or built to withstand a beating. I think you might be surprised how many owners of R5/R6 buy budget lenses such as the 15-30mm, 100-400mm, 600mm F11 and 800mm F11. They's also be buying cheap Tamron and Sigma lenses if they were available in RF mount.
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Many people also thought that there was a need for a 7DMkiii to compete with the Nikon D500.
Many people thought there was a need for a hi-performance FF DSLR above the 5DMkiv, to compete with the Nikon D850.
Neither camera ever appeared.
Many people thought the M series should never have been abandoned.
Yet Canon is only producing RF mount cameras now.
Some people think there is a "need" for a new FF successor to the R
Some people think there is a "need" for a FF successor to the RP.
Yet thus far, there is no sign of either. I genuinely wish you luck, but don't hold your breath.
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I can only express hope that Canon don't sacrifice their great ergonomics on the altar of style.Canon execs have said they are not interested in retro styling, they prefer to concentrate on ergonomics. But... all things can change
Part of Canon's success is due to ergonomics!
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Amateurs? I do not think so. Cost effective, yes. APSC cameras take MANY many AMAZING photos. Full frame or crop, it is not the camera, it is the photographer.
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While I agree with the sentiment, the post wasn’t how the cameras are used or by who, but how Canon treats/considers APS-C cameras.
In various geographies, Canon has labeled just the integrated-grip bodies or those plus the 5-series cameras as ‘professional’, but has not so-labeled any of their APS-C models.
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What's the "filter adapter" ? How does it help keep the sensor clean ?
Thanks...
(I'm not arguing -- I'm a newbie trying to learn)
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The 5D III got released a decade ago, if you purchased it at around the release date you have gotten good use out of it. If it dies you could always buy another used 5D III or even a new 6D II or 5D IV or if you switch to RF there is the EF-RF adapter which works with all of your EF lenses.
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