The Canon EOS R8 will be announced at CP+ in February

45MP isn't enough?

I'd be interested to know what genres of photography you tackle that require, or would benefit from, super-high resolution. Sure, there are branches of photography where very high resolution is preferred, such as product and billboard work, digital archiving of art etc, but why would a hi-res R5 be preferred to a 100MP Fujifilm?
I tackle landscape photography. The high-res R5 was rumoured to have a better dynamic range and be around 80Mp, not 100Mp. Fujifilm GFX has a too limited range of lenses.
80Mp might be a bit too much but still better than 45Mp.
 
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How about releasing some more RF-s lenses before pushing another APS-C camera body? Two lenses is a joke, even worse when you’re considering there’s a third crop camera soon.
All EF/EF-S/RF/RF-S lenses work on the R mount APS-C bodies. There is no need for longer RF-S lenses as the existing ones cover that focal range sufficiently. You can adapt the existing EF-S wide angle lenses now if you want to.

The missing RF-S native lenses are wide angle. Repackaging the better EF-M lenses would address this missing piece.
 
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What's the "filter adapter" ? How does it help keep the sensor clean ?
Thanks...
(I'm not arguing -- I'm a newbie trying to learn)
That adapter is an EF-RF adapter with a filter slot builtin, I have a clear and circular polarizing filters I can put in there. When changing lenses, the filter acts as a barrier for dirt and dust.

This is a picture of the adapter with the clear filter taken partially out of the slot. It took a while to get it to reflect the lights so you can see there's actual glass there, it is a very good clear filter :)

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With DLSRs clear glass in a filter adapter was needed, because glass has another density than air and if you simply replaced the filter with air in times when you don't need one, the optical formula would change slightly. That still is the case with mirrorless cameras of course, but I wonder if mirrorless cameras could compensate that. At least for the autofocus it should be possible to compensate that. Maybe not that easy for the lens profiles that are built into the camera or into software.

You will notice that the adapter with a filter has a slightly different length than the one without a filter to compensate for the glass that is replacing the air. That's why there always is glass in the adapter, even if you do not need a filter. That's a downside you should consider when buying a filter adapter.
 
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You will notice that the adapter with a filter has a slightly different length than the one without a filter to compensate for the glass that is replacing the air. That's why there always is glass in the adapter, even if you do not need a filter. That's a downside you should consider when buying a filter adapter.
Even if you didn't need to account for the (lack of) extra glass, the hole in the side is huge! It lets in lots of stray light and dirt.

Getting the CPL adapter and the extra clear filter was expensive, I very keenly felt the extra "RF tax" on that :) But having a CPL that I can mount behind the MP-E65mm showed a clear improvement in image quality and not having to get a 72mm filter for the 180L made it worth it. Not having to clean the RP sensor was an added benefit.
 
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That adapter is an EF-RF adapter with a filter slot builtin, I have a clear and circular polarizing filters I can put in there. When changing lenses, the filter acts as a barrier for dirt and dust.

This is a picture of the adapter with the clear filter taken partially out of the slot. It took a while to get it to reflect the lights so you can see there's actual glass there, it is a very good clear filter :)

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Convinced, I'll get one.:)
 
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I don't understand the purpose of a camera "between the R7 and R10". There is only $500 there, and the features are well-separated already, while not being a universe apart. Rather, they would seemingly need a body above the R7 (DX R5ish) or below the R10 (viewfinder-less M replacement). I suppose an R7ish spec with no viewfinder and a couple of new things such as the screen mentioned is "in-between" but again why?
 
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    I hadn't realized that the R10 lacked the protective shutter

    I just bought an R10 as backup to my R6 and I wasn't happy about this lack; but then I think I understand why they did it.

    I think first, lot of R10 user will mount the kit lens when purchasing and most likely will never change it, probably they maybe don't even have a second lens; so dust on sensor wouldn't be such a problem (and they probably wouldn't even notice the dust in pictures).

    Second and much more important, the shutter curtains are way, WAY, WAAAAAYYY more delicate then the sensor itself, and Canon decided that a "not-so-pro-typical-R10-user" would most likely be less careful and delicate compared to a more advanced/pro user, and they could damage the shutter curtains easily; so they decided to leave the sensor exposed because it wouldn't be damaged if touched.

    Me as a professional, shooting SLR's since 1999, every time i switch the lens on my R6 I'm SOOO careful, because there's the shutter exposed, and there's even not the mirror box, so the shutter is really, REALLY close to the lens mount, and touching and damaging wouldn't be so difficult for someone less caring then me (or simply the amateur user who, and it's not a crime, don't known how delicate those curtains are).

    So I think I understand why they didn't included it; would be nice if they implement via firmware (leaving it disabled by default), and if you activate the shutter closure on turn off, show a message clearly explain that could be dangerous and that the user will take all responsibility when handling the camera without the lens.
     
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    I just bought an R10 as backup to my R6 and I wasn't happy about this lack; but then I think I understand why they did it.

    I think first, lot of R10 user will mount the kit lens when purchasing and most likely will never change it, probably they maybe don't even have a second lens; so dust on sensor wouldn't be such a problem (and they probably wouldn't even notice the dust in pictures).

    Second and much more important, the shutter curtains are way, WAY, WAAAAAYYY more delicate then the sensor itself, and Canon decided that a "not-so-pro-typical-R10-user" would most likely be less careful and delicate compared to a more advanced/pro user, and they could damage the shutter curtains easily; so they decided to leave the sensor exposed because it wouldn't be damaged if touched.

    Me as a professional, shooting SLR's since 1999, every time i switch the lens on my R6 I'm SOOO careful, because there's the shutter exposed, and there's even not the mirror box, so the shutter is really, REALLY close to the lens mount, and touching and damaging wouldn't be so difficult for someone less caring then me (or simply the amateur user who, and it's not a crime, don't known how delicate those curtains are).

    So I think I understand why they didn't included it; would be nice if they implement via firmware (leaving it disabled by default), and if you activate the shutter closure on turn off, show a message clearly explain that could be dangerous and that the user will take all responsibility when handling the camera without the lens.
    That is exactly what I think and want as well :)
     
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    I don't understand the purpose of a camera "between the R7 and R10". There is only $500 there, and the features are well-separated already, while not being a universe apart. Rather, they would seemingly need a body above the R7 (DX R5ish) or below the R10 (viewfinder-less M replacement). I suppose an R7ish spec with no viewfinder and a couple of new things such as the screen mentioned is "in-between" but again why?
    I agree that there may be sufficient demand/need for a model below the R10 that doesn't have an EVF, as many smartphone-reared novices these days are used to composing their photos on a screen at arm's length.

    It's (IMO) a bloody ridiculous way to hold a camera though - increased camera-shake, reflections on the screen, and an effectively smaller image to view (compared to the magnified view in an EVF, which occupies a large percentage of your field of vision).

    Yep, I'm sounding old, and I am ;)
     
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    I agree that there may be sufficient demand/need for a model below the R10 that doesn't have an EVF, as many smartphone-reared novices these days are used to composing their photos on a screen at arm's length.

    It's (IMO) a bloody ridiculous way to hold a camera though - increased camera-shake, reflections on the screen, and an effectively smaller image to view (compared to the magnified view in an EVF, which occupies a large percentage of your field of vision).

    Yep, I'm sounding old, and I am ;)
    It does help with getting the camera at eye level with my kids, without having to make old man noises while bending my knees :)
     
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    I just bought an R10 as backup to my R6 and I wasn't happy about this lack; but then I think I understand why they did it.

    I think first, lot of R10 user will mount the kit lens when purchasing and most likely will never change it, probably they maybe don't even have a second lens; so dust on sensor wouldn't be such a problem (and they probably wouldn't even notice the dust in pictures).

    Second and much more important, the shutter curtains are way, WAY, WAAAAAYYY more delicate then the sensor itself, and Canon decided that a "not-so-pro-typical-R10-user" would most likely be less careful and delicate compared to a more advanced/pro user, and they could damage the shutter curtains easily; so they decided to leave the sensor exposed because it wouldn't be damaged if touched.

    Me as a professional, shooting SLR's since 1999, every time i switch the lens on my R6 I'm SOOO careful, because there's the shutter exposed, and there's even not the mirror box, so the shutter is really, REALLY close to the lens mount, and touching and damaging wouldn't be so difficult for someone less caring then me (or simply the amateur user who, and it's not a crime, don't known how delicate those curtains are).

    So I think I understand why they didn't included it; would be nice if they implement via firmware (leaving it disabled by default), and if you activate the shutter closure on turn off, show a message clearly explain that could be dangerous and that the user will take all responsibility when handling the camera without the lens.
    I am not a pro, but I estimate I have changed in the field the lens (usually by taking TCs on and off) on my R5 and R7 well over a 1000 times with my fingers and thumb getting nowhere the shutter. Without that closing shutter, I would have been having to clean my sensors regularly. So, if your guess is correct, then the R10 is not aimed at the likes of me or careful pros like you.
     
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