Venus Optics adds RF mounts to some of their current Laowa lenses

The shift adapter sounds like a very interesting concept. I wonder how many people might get one of those.
The 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D is for APS-C cameras, isn't it?

Exploreshootshare said:

The shift adapter sounds like a very interesting concept. I wonder how many people might get one of those.
The 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D is for APS-C cameras, isn't it?

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Correct! From https://www.venuslens.net/product/9mm/

Exploreshootshare said:

The shift adapter sounds like a very interesting concept. I wonder how many people might get one of those.

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It's a shifting teleconverter. Depending on the quality of the glass (both the converter glass and the converted lens) vs. the pixel pitch of your camera, you might be able to get the same or better effect just by cropping.

That 65mm seems to be delayed thanks to 0 Covid lockdowns.

Chaitanya said:

That 65mm seems to be delayed thanks to 0 Covid lockdowns.

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Isn't Laowa a Chinese company? Not sure. Anyway, there have been some huge recent lockdowns in China. Supply chains are still disrupted. I think I read that China has loosened up in the past week or so.

Ozarker said:

Isn't Laowa a Chinese company? Not sure. Anyway, there have been some huge recent lockdowns in China. Supply chains are still disrupted. I think I read that China has loosened up in the past week or so.

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Yes they are based in Heifei(Anhui province), China. China did "loosen" restrictions but the whole situation is still quite ambiguous.

Kit. said:

It's a shifting teleconverter. Depending on the quality of the glass (both the converter glass and the converted lens) vs. the pixel pitch of your camera, you might be able to get the same or better effect just by cropping.

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Also, as it requires a physical aperture ring it won't work with any (?) Canon EF lenses, only some 3rd party ones. I guess it could be a nice addition to the Laowa 12mm lens though.

I have to admit... I read this and found it interesting... but all it made me want is the RF TS lenses to come out sooner.

Bdbtoys said:

I have to admit... I read this and found it interesting... but all it made me want is the RF TS lenses to come out sooner.

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The RF T/S lenses (at least some of them) will supposedly have AF, but most T/S work is done on a tripod - by nature it is a slowish process setting up a shot, so the value of AF is arguable. The EF mount versions are excellent, so why lust after the RF version?

entoman said:

The RF T/S lenses (at least some of them) will supposedly have AF, but most T/S work is done on a tripod - by nature it is a slowish process setting up a shot, so the value of AF is arguable. The EF mount versions are excellent, so why lust after the RF version?

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The question is also whether they will Af before or after tilt or shift operation. I too do not see any relevant advantage in AF , for me at least. Yet, I'm only an occasional TS lens user. A professional might see it differently. Would be intersesting reading Keith Cooper's opinion on the subject!

entoman said:

The RF T/S lenses (at least some of them) will supposedly have AF, but most T/S work is done on a tripod - by nature it is a slowish process setting up a shot, so the value of AF is arguable. The EF mount versions are excellent, so why lust after the RF version?

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The bare minimum improvement I'd like to see is that it can sense the amount of tilt and shift and log that to the EXIF. Other brands are already doing that. It would make applying lens corrections in post a lot more feasible.

Del Paso said:

The question is also whether they will Af before or after tilt or shift operation. I too do not see any relevant advantage in AF , for me at least. Yet, I'm only an occasional TS lens user. A professional might see it differently. Would be intersesting reading Keith Cooper's opinion on the subject!

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Maybe just to make the lens more useful for other photography? Just another feature to give it more value? I'd imagine the af would keep some traveler from carrying another lens. I've never owned a TS lens, so just spit balling.

Ozarker said:

Maybe just to make the lens more useful for other photography? Just another feature to give it more value? I'd imagine the af would keep some traveler from carrying another lens. I've never owned a TS lens, so just spit balling.

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Funnily enough, one of the reasons why I love using my T/S-E 24mm is *because* it is slow to use. It takes time to set up a tripod, adjust the tilt and/or shift, and focus manually, during which time I'm spending more time also studying the composition, and noticing/eliminating distracting elements in the scene. If you haven't used one, hire one for a weekend and give it a try, it will be a revelation!

I'm sure there will be someone, somewhere, sometime, who can find a use for AF in a T/S lens...

and yes, It will be very interesting to hear Keith Cooper's opinions on this - if *anyone* will know how to get the best out of it, it will be Keith.

entoman said:

It will be very interesting to hear Keith Cooper's opinions on this - if *anyone* will know how to get the best out of it, it will be Keith.

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Yes! I'll be waiting to see what Keith does. Honestly, the reason I've not tried it is because of the process. I have a huge problem concentrating and staying on task these days. I tend to forget what I am doing sometimes. I drove away from a good Manfrotto light stand and light in the middle of the desert a few years ago. I have to have someone with me.

Del Paso said:

The question is also whether they will Af before or after tilt or shift operation. I too do not see any relevant advantage in AF , for me at least. Yet, I'm only an occasional TS lens user.

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Yes, for my use of a TSE17 and generally wide angle the "missing" AF is not a problem.
But the TSE 90mm 2.8 as RF version with AF can be used as an portrait (or macro) lens also.

Two(!)-Eye-Autofokus with slightly tilted plane can be a nice thing, i guess....

davidcl0nel said:

Yes, for my use of a TSE17 and generally wide angle the "missing" AF is not a problem.
But the TSE 90mm 2.8 as RF version with AF can be used as an portrait (or macro) lens also.

Two(!)-Eye-Autofokus with slightly tilted plane can be a nice thing, i guess....

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Right!
I had forgotten (I do not use them!) the 50, 90 and 135mm TSEs. AF is certainly useful for them!
What could also be a benefit, if technically possible, is kind of an automatic hyperfocal function when tilting...I guess that's what you meant with two-eye AF.

entoman said:

The RF T/S lenses (at least some of them) will supposedly have AF, but most T/S work is done on a tripod - by nature it is a slowish process setting up a shot, so the value of AF is arguable. The EF mount versions are excellent, so why lust after the RF version?

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Because I don't have a TS lens yet, and I would like to get a native one when it's released. The rumored RF sounds better, and I can wait.

Keith, where are you?
We need your opinion!

Bdbtoys said:

Because I don't have a TS lens yet, and I would like to get a native one when it's released. The rumored RF sounds better, and I can wait.

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That makes perfect sense. The EF mount versions however are extremely good, and mint copies can be had for less than a third of what you'll pay for a native RF version. For 99% of T/S photography, people will be using a tripod and focusing manually, so personally I question the *need* for AF - it seems more like a marketing *feature* than something of practical value.